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Posted: 09/19/06 10:21 AM
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Hello all,
I wanted to drop in and let everyone know we have recently updated the Jeep website to include new information on the 2007 Jeep Wrangler. Amongst these new additions is the option to take an online 360 degree tour of the 2007 wrangler inside and out.
Click below to check it out: http://www.jeep.com/07wrangler/gallery/?pid=Forum&adid=07Launch_Fl_AUTO
The 2007 Jeep Wranglers have begun making there way to your local dealership. If you haven’t seen them in person, here is your chance to do so sneak a quick glance into the Wranglers styling for the 2007 model year.
If you have any additional questions please feel free to ask.
Dan
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Posted: 09/23/06 05:12 PM
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Hey; so Jeep wants to know +/-'s? OKAY. An inline motor has significantly more low end torque than any V-motor. Jeep is dropping the last vestige of low-end crawling, after keeping it for years; just in time for GM to start marketing an inline 5, DUH. Then you put in a V-6 of the same HP-WTF? change for the sake of change. If you were going to change the engine at least do something original, like diesel (real low end torque) or if you have to do a V; Dodge isn't using their V-10 anymore. Hell, they build a HEMI don't they? That could be a great mud rig. The TJ was easily the best engineered Jeep ever; even though I own a CJ-7. The Rubicon was the Zenith of that apex (it couldn't last).
If Jeep wanted to suck the YUPPIE SUV nipple, they should have; gone diesel to increase mileage, gone to stainless steel tubs/etc... and marketed it as a "treehugger" lifetime vehicle. Be the first to stop the throw away car mentality, you have the perfect platform already. Why does JEEP want to build the same SUV as every other maker? Please understand we wrote off all the high-end crap years ago. I am only talking about the Wrangler. What kind of sick individual puts a slip-o-matic and A/C in a JEEP. You Asked; Floyd Collins
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redbeast
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Posted: 09/25/06 04:21 PM
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I'm not so sure a front-heavy diesel plant would be a good idea for a Jeep. - That's like 38-DD's on a marathon runner. It may be fun to watch, but the physics of the things just don't work in that endeavor.
GM inlines ( the older ones) are reliable and easy to work on. Noisy, but reliable. I used to wind up my GM straight-6 250 to 3900 rpm all the time. It sounded like it was going to come apart some times. I haven't heard too many good things about the 5-cyl engines though. They are made by Isuzu, I belive.
I'm with you on the 'nip-sucking suv lovers'. waaaayyyy too much is marketed toward this group of fools today in my opinion. Rubicon is the coolest Jeep, and the only Jeep I would ever consider. - Just my opinion.
Edited 9/25/2006 5:22 pm ET by redbeast (redbeast2)
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Posted: 10/28/06 07:57 PM
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Although this may certainly be the case, if you compare the torque output for both of these engines, you will notice that the all-new 2007 3.8L V6 engine bears not only a higher horsepower rating, but also a higher torque output as well. Essentially, what DaimlerChrysler has done is take a refinement standpoint with this new engine. This is not to say, by an means, that the previous engine was below the standard. In retrospect, all of the the feedback that we have received regarding that engine has been positive. In a similar vein, Jeep is implementing an engine that will not only meet all the quality control standards that the previous engine has, but will also outpower - from a horsepower and torque standpoint - that engine. In addition, and probably most importantly, the fuel economy of this engine will outclass the previous engine; coupled with all other outstanding performance specifications. Furthermore, it is understandable that a new engine/technology will be met with some level of reluctance and skepticism, however, at some point, all technologies must evolve. In another of my forums, I had a consumer mention to me that there will be some level of difficulty from a parts/repair standpoint for the new engine; due largely in part to the fact that the 4.0L engine has been around for quite some time. In response to that, all I can say is that a new engine, with a recognition for past technology, will more than likely fare well in such a competitive vehicle market. If you happen to have any other questions/comments, feel free to post. I would be more than happy to be of assistance.
Cheers,
Miguel M.
Edited 10/29/2006 9:27 am by JeepInfoCenter (JeepInfoCent)
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mudrock
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Posted: 10/30/06 03:11 PM
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I agree, the new engine does have a higher horsepower and torque rating. However it also comes at a high rpm level. So...it sounds good but doesn't deliver what you may need off hwy. High torque at low rpm so you don't have to mat the gas to get the power you need and end up breaking parts.
Don't get me wrong, I like the new Wrangler and have looked at the Rubicon 4dr unlimited seriously for my family. Unfortunately I don't think it would have the low end torque to haul my off road tent trailer and my family. It would have been nice if Jeep had thrown in and engine and suspension capable of hauling more than 3500lbs. Especially when you take into consideration that most manufacturers recommend not towing or hauling more than 15% less than the maximum rated capacity,which in reality means I can only tow/haul 2975lbs. Not alot for a 4dr suv.
Great vehicle concept,I just think it needs a little refining.
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