jon b. (could'nt spell his last name if i tried, you know, the toyata guy from all pro) has a comp buggie called tiny. it runs a type 4 vw engine. i ran that same engine in my old sandrail. the comp rock buggies and long travel sand cars chassis are beginning to look very similar. guys are running lightweight single seaters with street bike engines in the dunes, and pro rockcrawlers don't even have a seat for their spotter anymore.  i think building a rig with different mounting points for the suspension links and shocks, revalving capability, timing and fuel management control and bolt on bolt offs to perform in all 'wheeling environments would be ULTIMATE. think about going rockcrawling, glamis, trail riding, the cinders, snow, and the baja 1000 all with the same vehicle. i may even refinance the house to get one. i just want the staff to try it first because their pockets are much deeper than mine. c'mon guys, god hates a coward!  

Would you like to do that to mine?  I'll let you do everything and I will be the manual labor if you will pay for parts. 

sure, bring it over, i usually keep an extra 20 grand laying around to build trucks for guys i don't know.  

yeah same here.

66 77 bronco with 49s  

I would have to agree with MUDDNUTT.  You gentlemen in CA need to keep in mind that your readers are not only in CA and into rockcrawling or tube rigs.  I have been getting your mag for 5 years now and lately it has been getting boring to those of us that are blue collar working class with low budgets.  Not all your readers are into rocks, tubes, or high dollar rigs that we cant afford.  I think your next build up should be a '65-'84 fullsize pickup ment for the MUD.  It's a great mag and keep up the great issues.

What is up with the luxuary awds in the 4x4 of the year contest?  No one in their idoitic mind that could afford one of those high price soccer mom awds will ever take that thing into a REAL OFF-ROAD area.  Why have those things in the contest?

I would like to see a combination trail/mud truck. Something reasonably streetable, but capable on 3/4 rated trails and able to get through reasonable amounts of mud.

Detroit Lockers front and rear, maximum 36" radial mud tires (not boggers), maximum 4" lift, and a smog-legal fuel injected V-8 with an auto-tranny. Make it a 90's Bronco and I'll buy your magazine until I die.....

Thanks Jerrod!

just another angle on the high priced luxury suv's. when the jeep wrangler replaced the cj, no one thought the yuppie jeeps would ever get 'wheeled. same with xj's, bronco's, blazers, new pickups. every vehicle depreciates, and when the price gets affordable for us blue collar guys, we buy them and modify them to 'wheel. i'm starting to plan my escalade build right now. bolt some 40" meats on and hit the trails. then the kids can watch a dvd between obstcles and i can call on star and ask them for the difficulty rating on the trail ahead. just kidding!  

I like the cheap truck idea. I live in Ohio and we dont have any rocks to crawl on, no sand to run in or no big mud pits to bog in. We have trails in the woods that started off being atv trails and turned into truck trails. The truck I currently own is not an ordinary truck it is a 1964 IH C1200 4x4. I have less than $2000.00 in it with the 42" TSL tires costing me $1300.00. I swapped out the closed knuckle Dana 44 front for an open knuckle 8 lug Dana 44 and swpped the rockwell IH built rear for an 8 lug Dana 60. I built the whole suspension lift by hand in my own garage. All the parts I needed I built or bought at the local junk yard. I would like to see a build up of a truck like any hard working family man like myself can afford. Do something different too dont do a 73-87 chevy like all of the thousands of others have been done. By the way I also own a 79 chevy 4x4 that I use to haul firewood with.

As a grown man that has taken time away from skydiving to satisfy this need I acquired after purchaseing a 97 TJ just as transportation.  Well as you know after a year of the 4-fever she does not look much like she did when I got her but mine was all trial and error with a little guide from your magazine.

Is there a way you guys can come up with a project that would cover multiple audiences.  Say there might be a particular build these days that will basicly be the same on several vehicles?  Not necessarily a big Avalanche..however nice it is, just something with a little more stuff that a guy like me on a $75,000 a year salary can actually do.  

Maybe even bring an editor to a reader with a mod to see what he/she (politics) has to do to get this mod in, wiht the tools they have a home what they have to go get etc. etc. etc

atching someone else make mistakes eases my mind about doing my own mods!

Blue Skies,

bailout13500@msn.com

I think you should do somethin different such as an AMC Eagle maybe swap in a 304 and low range transfer case. Hell go wild with it and see what you can do. We need to see more of these on the trail.

why? eagles suck the only thing good about it would be that its light

I knew a guy once who made his own 1 purson dunebuggy or go cart what ever you want to call it. He bought a totald 1100cc ninga that somone had totald and used the engin and gearbox and made a hell of a kick ass offroad machine. He spent under 5G and did it in his gorage during the winter.  I think this would be a cool story  

wrong website bud

japbike powed gocarts arent the main goal of the avrage reader of 4wheel

we like to read about real trucks and if its a buggy its gota have 38s and at least a 4.3

what we all agree on tho i think is girls... there should be more girls in the mag not driving - washing rigs in tinny skirts. we have to see some new ass in here i mean last goodlooking girl i remember was from the semi or sema or seme or whatever show.

girls and rigs page - vote?

Negative.  Lots of family oriented folks read this magazine and don't want that kind of junk in a mag. 

If you want to see scantily clad chicks and trucks, pick up Truckin', or any low rider mag.  If you just want to see scantily clad ladies then there are plenty of soft porn mags on the market. 

Point being, this magazine was created for 4 wheeling and the advancing of this great hobby.  Not for getting excited over bikini clad barbie's.  If 4 wheel & off-road or four wheeler started including any more of these plastic pinups I'ld cancel my subscription. 

Scoutnut