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willys53
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Posted: 09/08/07 08:20 PM
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Any ideas? I am putting a dana 60 from a 70 something Ford into my Willys Wagon and would like to retain the full float hub setup but switch to a 5 x 5.5 lug pattern to match the front. Does anybody know of a way to do this without spending a $1000 or so for a custom kit? That doesn't even include the axle shafts. Basically I'm hoping for a 5 lug hub that will bolt onto the stock ford spindle. I have found a few 5 lug hubs but they all seem to be designed to fit a chevy or dodge front spindle. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
1953 Willys Wagon 350 TBI, SM420, Dana 300 Dana 44 Front, Dana 60 Rear
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Posted: 09/08/07 08:48 PM
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there is no way to keep the large full float set up and a 5 x 5.5 lug pattern. You have two choices, Keep the 8 lug set up with the full float and convert your front axle to the same set up or, modify the axle to a semifloat to get the 5 x 5.5 set up. What is your front axle?
Trust me when I say to stay with the larger full float 8 lug set up. Its super strong and will handle alot of abuse. Alot of newer rigs coming out are going with the 8 lug full float set up because its just stronger then a semi float set up. there are full float set ups out there for what you want, but you will spend some money. Im running 8 lug set up on my YJ and never regret it. You can buy special disc brake conversions for these axle to clear 15 inch wheels(300 bucks). Yes they do sell 8 lug pattern 15 inch wheels that will clear the larger one ton spindle sizes. I know this because I have mine set up like this right now. I did it because I wanted to use my swampers that need 15 inch wheels. You probably have some nice wheels you want to use. Sometimes when you upgrade you downgrade at the same time. But in time it will be an overall UPgrade. When I did my swap to 3/4 ton axles, I lost my low gears and lockers front and rear and had to go with 32 inch skinnys on 16 inch ford steel wheels. It sucked at first, but Im almost back to where I was but with Heavier drivetrain this time. It all takes time.
Good luck
1993 YJ on 3/4 ton 1983 J-20 axles
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Posted: 09/12/07 12:01 PM
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Whats up front? It will likely be easier and cheaper to convert the front to 8 lug...
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willys53
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Posted: 09/16/07 12:09 AM
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I have a Dana 44 from what I believe was a 74 Cherokee. It lived in my uncles back yard longer than it lived in its original home. I know I could convert the 44 to 8 lug relatively easily and I considered that option, but I also need to narrow the Dana 60 about 3 inches to match the 44. I neglected to mention that before. I was hoping to kill two birds with one stone because the dimensions of the aftermarket 5 lug hubs for front dana 60 applications would move the wheel mounting flange in enough to put the length right where I want it. But apparantly none of these work with a ford rear spindle. So I guess my options are to either spend the bucks for a complete full float kit or just go with the semi float setup. I suppose I could also try to find a longer front axle to match the rear. (J-20?) I don't plan on running anything bigger than 35 inch tires with a 69 to 1 crawl ratio and a mild v-8. Semi float should be burly enough as long as I don't get too throttle happy shouldn't it? I really like the full float idea but it just seems too expensive for a student on a budget. Any wisdom?
1953 Willys Wagon 350 TBI, SM420, Dana 300 Dana 44 Front, Dana 60 Rear
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Posted: 09/17/07 04:44 PM
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Definatly look into a front axle from a J-20. Try to stay newer then 76 to get the open knuckle set up. You can always use wheel spacers in the front as well. My front d44 is from a 83 J-20. You can always try and sell the half ton d44 to help offset the cost of the 3/4 ton d44. Just remember you gotta think about the cost of matching the gear ratios. Its always better to try and get a complete set of donor axles from the same truck. that way you know everything matches up. thats what I did. what side is your t-case drop for the front shaft? if it is passenger, you can get a complete set of axles from an older 3/4 or one ton chevy for penneys. If it is driver, you can get from a ford or 81 or newer J-20. there are so many out there.
Back to what you have: convert the front 44 to 8 lug with spacers to match the witdth of the rear d-60 and call it a day. Im assuming that both axles have the same ratio. Then forget about trying to find a front 44 to match, just go for a front d-60. I got one sittin in the corner of my garage to build as money comes in.
I hope this gives you some ideas to think about
1993 YJ on 3/4 ton 1983 J-20 axles
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