Dodge likely to discontinue 250, and 3500 series trucks

I haven't seen a high mileage diesel in my world. If a 1 ton 4wd makes 120,000 they get rid of it. Most of the time they don't make 120,000 without some major componet change like engine replacement. The cummins seems to be the better/reliable of the bunch. Its made of cast iron and no aluminum. Very durable engine but the electronic injection is the weak link at this time. Maybe they will get this figured out soon. But with the engine oils changing and fuels changing to meet emmissions maybe they will never really be truly reliable in the working world. I've had 7 diesels in the past 9yrs and not one survived without serious problems and all were in stock form no performance parts. Snoman you have a good day and I know you know what your talking about and keep up the good work/good info. Was watching the obama show and worried for our future. I hope he doesn't destroy america and some of the privledges and freedoms we have left. I know he has different views than I do.  

Well its sad to say but dodge may be almost extint. But so is GM and Ford. GM is doing tarrable. The merger was the only way to save GM. But the meger is off for now because GM is dieng faster then they thought. GM and ford and dodge will be cutting plenty of jobs, plants, modles. Dodge will keep Trucks its there best selling products. Everywhere I found does not have any spcifics yet. Its too early. And a dealer does not count as a sorce. They all lie for living!

And Ford is doing better than the other 2 but is still going backrupt. All 3 are asking the Feds for money. So it is not just dodge that is going under. They all got greedy and cut corners and gave the CEOs and higher worker to much money. All of 3 are diening.  

Dodge truck sales have fallen flat and so have SUV sales. If Dodge survives it is not going to be with trucks. Also Dodges current owners have bleed 1 billion in "profit" out of company in reduced services, dealer support and cut R&D fee and took money for this and is getting ready to run. They are not investing in its future and I never thought that they would either from day one.  

Well acordiding to all the reports all over from cnn to dodge to gm's website to allpar everyone says trucks will stay. Like I always said dodge will last just as long as ford and gm will. Now that all 3 are going backrupt.

The Dodge Ram remained the top seller, despite a 21% sales decline, with 2008 units dominating sales.

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/page/3/

According to Kimberly Rodriguez, automotive practice consultant with Grant Thornton LLP, the deal would close up to half of Chrysler’s factories and the axing of all vehicle lines except the minivans, Dodge Ram pickup and some Jeep models.

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/page/5/  

I do not hold anything in these claims or that this 21% decline. Chrysler is a private company and is not required to report certain aspects as well plus owner want to dump it and they want to look good. I have talked to a few dealers and know owner of one of them and trucks sales are in the pits along with SUV's. Also zip, zero nada 2500 and 3500 trucks are going to be built before Jan 09 and likely not at all. Just like the custom van craze of 80's that finally died, the 4x4 truck craze is dying and Chrysler has focused too much on them in past. No new development has been spent since Chrysler was taken private and only new products were ones started before this. BTW, the real plan is to kill Dodge truck and SUV lines (because there is no future in them becuase fuel will go high in price again) because in the case of GM merging with them, the less truck capacity you have they more efficient you are with reduced demand for them. Also since buyout, Chrysler has only had a year to year contract with Cummins vs multi year contracts in past to make it easy to cut and run. (but this also means you tend to pay more for engines too when you are using them). You have your take based on your sources and I have mine and watch who turns out right here.... Allpar has it wrong but they have a reason to hope or think otherwise because no dodge, no Allpar long term..  

The problem with the big three is, the US allowing the imports into the market, used to be you wanted a work truck you had one of three brands to choose from now the imports have their work trucks that they can sell cheaper because of cheaper labor expenses, the main reason why the big three had to have mexico china and japan make the parts for them. i hope none of the three go out of business that would really crush this economy.  
Nothing Better Than A Fullsize Ford

Most "imports" are built in US so they are not really imports anymore and to suggest that they should not be allowed is a protectionist society and consumer pays for this in higher prices and lower quality because competition is locked out. Were it not for import. Detroit made vehicle would really be poor because they would have no reason to improve them because it would be like by them or walk. (kinda like if you by a computer it kinda has to have Windows on it to use it). As far as labor cost, imports do not have to pay UAW contracts that are pricing US workers out of a job. You can make 20 to 25 buck a hour working at Toyota or Honda plants which is a fair wage for building a car in todays market and with these lower costs you can spend more time on product quality and still sell it at a lower price. Last I heard, 70% of the cost of building a GM car was labor with other 30% for raw materials and you cannot stay in business long that way building cars.  

you take what i say out of context, there is enough competition between ford chevy and dodge, you ask me and back in the 60s and 70s at least ford and chevy trucks were awesome, and no im not saying lock out imports. but just think of where the majority of the money they make goes. not here. it goes over sea's. theres nothing i can do to change this, except piss and moan on the computer. lol.  
Nothing Better Than A Fullsize Ford

LOL he does take everything out of context. He thinks nothing that anyone writes incuding REAL SORCES are lieing. LOL just wait and see who is right. The rest of the world or you.

If you think all that I listed was allpars own opionin. then you need to go back to school and learn how to read. They have there sorces listed. Like I said dealers dont know nothing. I do know the owner of a new dealer lot too. They dont work for dodge. NO DEALER WORKS FOR THE VECHILE MANUFACURE THEY JUST SELL! They just buy and sell. THAT IS IT. And because of privecy acts no one on the bord of any company is alowed to release info. Go look for your self go to cnn.com and google type in merger and there you go. I have all my sorces listed on here. Where are yours Oh yea the DEALER SAID SO. There are plenty of rumors out there. Stop listing to them, and read what is real.  

Like I said guys, just watch and see. I have a lot of sources that I have built up over the years and I have many "miles" on me so I have seen a lot of things over the years. BTW, a "dealer" knows when factory dealer support has been cut and when factory sponsored training is cut back and quality reduced. Last factory session one guy went to (and very few these days) they put him up in a 29 buck a night flea bag motel and storage area type conference room that did not have power plugs for display equipment for briefing/training. They know when they have been told than no new 2500 or 3500 truck are going to be built until Jan 09 at soonest (if at all). BTW, dealers are wanting to make a living and do not like being hung out to dry like they are because Chrysler's current owner is only interested in profit and will put Chrysler on auction block to get it is need be. What is happening here is only "Secret" if you have your eyes and ears closed as it has been coming for some time now.