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illegal police stops
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Posted: 09/26/09 08:38 AM
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I found the editorial in the august 2009 about police stops amusing. I have illegaly stopped by the police 300 times in 60000 miles. The difference between me and you is I am a cyclist. It bugs the police that they can't run my license plate so they pull me over. You are the press the way to deal with this is to record them. You need to show a clear pattern of abuse to win in a court of law. Have lawyers review the recordings to advise you on the next step. If you decide to noticeably film the police stops make sure you are uploading the film to a computer or covertly filming the filmer. The best outcome will be to have a film of the police taking away a camera this has happen to me it Tempe Arizona. This is a direct violation of the constitutional right of a free press. I have started fighting back in every police stop I report a road hazard mostly violations of ORS 810.150 none of the violations have been fixed by the actions of the police. This confirms to me what the psychiatric community and now even the criminologist magazines are saying the police are sociopaths. The police are a subtype of sociopath called dysocial. The first law of the dysocial is the protection of his groupso be careful.
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cerown
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Posted: 09/26/09 10:43 AM
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Ok I usually dont respond to rambling idiotic posts such as this one but felt the need to this time. First if you are getting stopped this supposed 300 times in 60000 then your a fool and doing something irresponsible and probably against the law. Police put their lives on the line every day they work so people like you can complain about being pulled over in the first place. And let us know how that whole fighting back on every stop goes, wish I could see the video of them cuffing you as you fight. Take police out of our society and what do you get, you, your children , your wifes, and everyone else will be in danger everyday. Grow up and stop crying about stuff that you bring upon yourself and maybe thank a police officer some day for saving lifes of people they dont even know, and sometimes loosing their lifes in return. If you think you can do better than grow a set and try and walk in their shoes. Until then keep your bias and undeserving opinions to yourself.
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Posted: 09/26/09 02:01 PM
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if its the same article that currentresident is talking about, where there was a group of wheelers going out on legal land and having a good time, then you, cerown, should read the article! it states that the police and other authorities are abusing the power and pulling over the same people in these groups that are 100% street legal, and yet they still go over the vechile each time. and find nothing. i believe its the same officer in some cases. just different times of the day or different days. its ridicolous! i dont have this problem in Mass. i respect the police and the service they provide for us.i just dont respect wen they use there power for stuff like this wen there is more important things they could be doing.
99 cherokee sport with a costume front bumper. 7 inch optronic lights 30 x 9.5 goodyear wrangler GS/A tires and TJ flares modified to fit my Jeep
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Posted: 09/26/09 05:21 PM
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I read the same article. I have been pulled over for bumper heights ( with in DOT rules), lights out (Had the lights inspected the day before with recpeits in hand and there where no lights out)and going to fast( parked in my drive way). To CEROWN your comment on protection, it take at least 15 minutes for any officer to respond and less than one to be hurt or killed, hopefully someone calls. If someone threats my family or myself I use the second amendment. Police brutality is on the increase. The problem is to many Barnies and not enough Andy's, Griffin that is. There is a sociology review and there are sociopaths. Ask your local officer a law and I bet you he does not know it, if it's not what he is trying to charge you with. I have about 10 friends that are officers and I am amazed how little of the D.O.T laws they know. There are websites for the D.O.T laws, get familer with the laws that concern you and be capable of finding the others. CERONW You choose your job and know the liabilities. I never heard of any of these people getting a ceromony when they get killed in the line of duty. A doctor, electrician, nurse, teacher, farmer and I can go on. Society lets the criminals go that are dangerous to police and itself. Our job as citizens is to keep our police in line as they are to keep us in line. Don't judge the whole group by a few, but report the few. It's your duty. It is raining here, going to the mud, later.
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cerown
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Posted: 09/27/09 08:02 PM
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So what your saying then, is you have the second amendment to protect your family? Ok thats good when someone breaks in your home while your home. How about when a drunk driver hits your family because the police arent pulling vehicles over, how about the domestic assault down the street where the wife gets beat all the time and doesnt own a gun, how about when your not home and your home gets broken into? I could go on and on. The problem is that you sit in your home and just take for granite that someone else is out there keeping your neighborhood safe but when you get inconvenienced, suddenly all police are sociopaths and dysocial. And as to your police brutality is on the rise comment, try and think of it like this, less respect and less following of directions an officer gives, leads to more tension and unsafe feeling for that officer. The officer has to make a desicion in less than a split second that people like you get to analyse for hours. I am a four wheeler since childhood and have never been pulled nor have known anyone to be pulled unlawfully. And you say too many police dont know the laws? Thats a two part issue, first is the motor vehicle law book is thicker than a dictionary so no way an officer can know every law, and second is some anoyying people out there (not pointing fingers) think they know so much more than the officers. Hey i got a great idea for you if you think you are getting pulled over do to the height of your vehicle, go to your local police and just introduce your self. Unless you just like having something to write about that is. Safe wheelin to all
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Posted: 09/29/09 10:22 AM
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Sorry about the delay. As far as fighting back goes when I report a violation of the law to a police officer and he fails to pass this information on to the violators which in this case are his employers then he is liable for any damages caused by the violation. In the case of bicycle unsafe storm drain gates people who hit those generally break thier neck. It cost $200000 a year to keep a paraplegic alive. The insurtance companies won't fool around they will put a lien on the officers house and his paycheck. Then they investigate him for insurance fraud and bring criminal charges of reckless endangerment. In the last 50 years murder rates have gone from 10000 to 20000 while the death from automobile accidents have went from 100000 to 42000. The life savings have been from inproved automobile design first improved medical care second and improved highways third none of the savings have been due to the police. It can be proved more lives can be saved by defunding the police and giving the money to hospitals even if the police do their job perfectly and prevent all murders and all deaths from drunk driving. Rather than pay a police officer to pull me over and tell me my tires are bald the police officer can be defunded and I can use the tax dollars to buy new tires. The officer if he is able can work at the tire factory or if not then he can make license plate in the prison.
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cerown
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Posted: 09/29/09 09:40 PM
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I guess if one of your family memebers dies from a drunk driver than you might change your uneducated idiotic opinion. Great idea, lets tax everyone more so they can pay for your tires, what a stupid thing to say. It's one thing to think your being pulled a little too much but that last post is pure ignorance in all its glory. How about more tax money goes to police so they can continue to annoy people like you. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I think it is unsensetive, and disrespectful to all the families of people killed in drunk driving cases for you to say that society doesnt need someone to enforce the dwi laws. And if you did any research before you put your foot in it you would have found that in the years where the boose it or loose it campaigns started dwi death rates and crashes in general went down. Also police are now targeting aggresive driving in which result in 30% of your cities crashes. Since that campaings have started the cities have saved tons of money, saved lifes, saved you the tax payer and started putting these people who think they own the road behind bars. But hey pitch the president with your tax for tires idea, he will probably pass it.
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